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Duplicating and Labeling DVD's       

In general, everyone agrees that "printable" DVD's are the best way to go - and that LABELS should be avoided on DVD's. Taiyo Yuden DVD's get high ratings, as do Ritek's. Amongst individual printers, Epson R200 & R300 series gets a lot of recommendations. Duplicators allow for unassisted replicating and some even print the labels as well. Some people make their own duplicators - but of the for sale ones, seems like Bravo's are high on the recommended list. High on the independent label program listing is "Sure Thing".

 
From Steve Bellan:
Nice to see everyone again.  2006 LI east anyone?
 
I just finished working on a feature film shot with 4 Viper Film Stream systems. Interesting cameras...er..computers ;-)
 
Thought I'd add my $.02.  I have a 3 bay duplicator (with pioneer drives) which I can use to make dupes from a DVD master or connect to my NLE and dupe from there. (I think of this as a back up in-case my NLE's DVD burner goes down). I think my biggest one-time run so far has been about 50 units.
 
I use an epson r200 for printing labels. Takes about 90 sec's to print a complilcated-multicolored label.
 
 I use Fuji 8x, print to center, inkjet printable discs, white surface, haven't tried silver yet. Also Maxell, Ritek and Beall products and have had no complaints or returns. I buy from www.edgewisemedia.com  and  www.taperesources.com
 
I use "SureThing" software to create my printing design, then export to epson's software for sizing and to print from.
 
Cheers

Steve Bellan

 

 
 

Multi-Purpose machines - like a PrimaVera
    These duplicate and print - usually in stacks of 50 - start it and one at a time it duplicates a disk, starts printing the label while a second is duplicated, etc. Takes about (how long) to do a stack of 50.

Some duplicators believe a better process is to use a duplicating Tower - and then a multi-disk printer.  There is a bit more hands-on involved in the duplicating Tower - but overall the speed is said to be a bit quicker. 

Multi-Purpose machines - like a PrimaVera

Use a Duplicating Tower
    usually come with 1-3 or 4-7 bays
    sample would be a Primera DUP-07 - with Plextor dual-layer dvd burners  - approx $1700

Multi-disk Printer

 

I built an ACARD system. I can burn 6 DVDs at a time.

It works well. If you use a power supply from a case, you have to jumper a couple pins, with an in line resistor to turn the power supply on without the presence of a mobo.

It is is simple and easy and it does not tie up your computer while you are making copies. That is probably the most important thing - you edit on your $2000+ machine instead of watching it do simple tasks.

Also, I would be suprised if you can burn more than one DVD at a time on your PC. I have tried a multitude of programs and have had problems with reliability.

Finally, does anyone know of a DVD printer that is any faster than an R200? It is now my bottleneck.

 

EvanF

 
 Posted: Mar 21, 2005 - 13:27       Link to Thread
Pix of duplicator:

Duplicator w/3 Pioneers

EvanF
 
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 Posted: Mar 21, 2005 - 13:12       
I recently also built a DVD copier using the Acard system!

Mine was UK sourced from SVP Paignton Devon. It has 7 x 8 times Dual Layer recorders & 1 x Player. Cost including 100 Printable DVD`s was £593 inc vat delivered.
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EvanF
 
 Posted: Mar 21, 2005 - 11:59     
I just had a disk duplicator made. It is enormously faster to make disks than LE, WinDVD, Cyber PowerDVD, and presumably Nero. So if anyone is making many disks and/or value your time, consider it.

They are incredibly easy to build, so much so that the component company I purchased it from also assembled and tested it. It uses 16X drives but to date, I have only used 8X media. I writes at about 4-5X speed overall, writing a 13 minute video in about 3 minutes. Mine is a 3 station target using the latest Pioneer 16X drives. Cost is a tad over $500 + tax. It has a built-in controller and does not require a computer or screen. Has a small LCD monitor.

This is just - FYI!!!

EvanF
 
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Went to a small company in Canoga Park, Ca.. From what I have seen, there is but two mfgs of such controllers. I have seen the controller I used in several commercial units -= for far more money. The controller takes one 5" bay. Configuration is:

Acard ARS-2030-t controller $167
Asus E616P2 16X DVD/ROM $27
3X Pioneer DVR-109 16X dual layer $81
House brand 5 bay chassis/PS $76

For even higher speed operation, you can (I have) add a hard disk which will then hold images of CD/DVDs. So you can thenuse a DVD or disk as the source.

Nice, simple system - and fast.

EvanF